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  • Boeing 777-300ER We added the Boeing 777-300ER, a lengthier version of the 777-200ER, to our fleet in 2004. This “triple seven” can accelerate from 0 to 96 km/h in just 6 seconds, due to its twin-jet engines that equal 175,000 horsepower. That’s why they are listed as the most powerful jet engines in the Guinness Book of Records.
  • A detailed seat map showing the best airline seats on the Turkish Airlines Boeing 777-300ER.
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Overall I rate this flight as pretty good. By the end of it I fealt like I had made a number of new friends (The Cabin crew!) Around about 3am a number of passengers were stretching their legs & talking in the rear area D. One of the cabin crew kept offering us some great snacks & it felt like we were having a party!
Having said that tho, their are still some things that could be improved on:-
1. the wait for drink & food at the start of the flight for food & drink was quite long. We took off at about 8.30pm & around about 10.30 were eating a full meal. Because a number of us were from NZ, our bodies were crying out for sleep not food. Although earplugs, headphones & eye covers were available, the cabin lights were
not dimmed until after all the empty plates etc. were collected. At this point in the 14Hr. flight (total predicted journey time of 34 hr.s) I really started to wonder whether I would be able to cope. Fortunately I eventually managed to get a short nap & this lifted my spirits somewhat. In total I probably only slept 1.5 - 2 hr.s on this night flight!

It is hard to figure the difference between a category, type, and class of aircraft when pilots first start out. Part of the problem for pilots is often these definitions don't apply to them initially. (Del 10/98) looking forward at the rear Economy Class cabin, the light seat trims really do give the Emirates aircraft a very light and airy kind of feeling! - Photo taken at Sydney - Kingsford Smith International (Mascot) (SYD / YSSY) in New South Wales, Australia on December 10, 2000.


I am quite tall & had tried hard to check in 23h 55 min.s (5 min.s after the earliest time at which the process become available) before the flight commenced. My experience with their website was very frustrating & in fact somewhat scary!! I selected a seat with extra legroom (which was supposed to be available, but when I tried to move to the next screen I receiver an error msg informing me that the seat was not available & to try again. After a number of repetitions I, in desperation, tried to select my original seat number & this was not available either!! I then clicked the back arrow to see what seat No, I now had, The field was blank! so it looked as if all I had achieved (by staying up pretty late to access the service) was to lose my seat allocation!! The website was giving me false information & my original seat allocation was not changed !! Why did I even try!!
One other thing;- There were 2 buttons on the side of the seat rest, initially it seemed that the rear 1 allowed me to recline the seat, with some difficulty. Later on in the flight, it would not budge, even though there was room behind it. Eventually I mentioned it to a crew member, they were successful in moving it. It seemed that the front button was the correct one. IT WOULD BE GOOD IF THIS information was provided in the literature freely available in the brochures in the front or maybe even announced at the end of the safety talk (until the written instructions become available)
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When I took my dad to Hawaii this January, I really wanted him to feel the distance. I wanted him to be proud of himself for traveling farther than he had in almost two decades, and to view the trip as a real adventure. I’d voice awe at our situation, saying things like, “you know we’re half-way to Australia right now?” Or, while looking out to the horizon, I’d mention how the next major bit of land in that direction could be Antarctica. He’d nod, but it wasn’t until our flight back to the mainland, all seven and a half hours on an American Airlines Boeing 777-200 from Honolulu to Dallas, that truly impressed upon him the dramatic distance we’d been away from home.

“That was far,” he simply said. “I don’t ever want to be on an airplane that long again.”

Hawaii is far. For travelers based in the midwest, and certainly the east coast, Europe is a more convenient travel option. Paris for the weekend? Doable. Hawaii, though? Better cross one or two weeks off the calendar. Even for west coasters, the hours spent in air en route to the islands can be a deterrent. So it’s about time an airline introduced a cabin that makes the lengthy flights from the mainland less intimidating and more comfortable, without soaring to the luxury price range of a business or first class ticket.

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Enter American Airlines Premium Economy, which commenced regular service to Hawaii on 15 December 2017, on the Dallas-Honolulu and Dallas-Kahului routes. The airline’s Dallas to Kona route will also see Premium Economy from 7 June 2018. Average airfares have tickets in Premium Economy commanding $300 to $500 over Main Cabin.

My seat in Premium Economy, in the last row of the cabin: 15A. Image: Cynthia Drescher

The seats are the Rockwell Collins (former B/E Aerospace) “MiQ,” marketed as a domestic business class seat style and also used by Cathay Pacific for its Premium Economy cabin. It’s currently the only true Premium Economy product flying between the mainland and the islands. The next closest competitor would be Hawaiian Airlines’ “Extra Comfort,” but there’s is a cabin that relies on soft product enhancements (blanket, amenity kit, a quieter cabin, etc), while the seat itself and layout are the same as found in economy.

Two of the four seats that span the middle of the PE cabin. Image: Cynthia Drescher

American Airlines plans to install Premium Economy across a significant portion of its widebody fleet, with it coming linefit to Boeing 787-9s, and retrofitted for the Boeing 777-300s, 787-8s, and Airbus A330-200s. Select Boeing 777-200s will also receive the class, and it’s with this aircraft type that AA flies to the islands.

Honolulu, Kahului, and Kona are to be the only domestic routes featuring the Premium Economy cabin, and while the hard product is the same as that used on international routes, the soft product does differ, though there’s little advance information on what exactly to expect. Where the dedicated website lists amenities, an asterisk simply notes: “*Product may vary for Premium Economy Hawaii.” Thus, when we flew in the seats, I made sure to take notes. Here is what travelers in Premium Economy can expect on American’s Hawaii routes:

  • More Legroom: 38 inches of pitch, versus 31 inches in Main Cabin and 35 in Main Cabin Extra
  • Extra seat width: 19 inches, versus 17 in Main Cabin and Main Cabin Extra
  • Slightly improved recline: No official measurements on this, but it is minimal. It’s perhaps one inch better than the recline of a Main Cabin seat and, yes, the last row in the cabin does recline. The headrest is also adjustable.
  • Better leg comfort: Padded leg rest in the bulkhead row, with pedal-style footrests in other rows
  • Larger Panasonic Avionics seatback touch-screen IFE: A separate remote control, and unlimited on-demand entertainment.
  • Increased personal space: The cabin’s layout is 2-4-2 on the 777-200, versus 3-4-3 in Main Cabin and Main Cabin Extra. The leather seats also feature two armrests for each passenger, so there’s no need to worry about elbow jostling or fighting over armrest space. Tray tables extend up out of the armrest, so they are not affected by movements of the seatback in front of you. And, blessedly, there is room enough to fully open your laptop.
  • Food: The same complimentary meal as Main Cabin, packaged picnic-style and therefore differing from the “enhanced” plated service in Premium Economy on international routes. Our Hawaii outbound was catered by GateGourmet and each passenger in Main Cabin, Main Cabin Extra, and Premium Economy received a box containing a bag of Maui-style potato chips, a lilikoi cookie, and a choice of a vegetarian or turkey wrap.
  • Beverages: Complimentary beverages, including beer, wine, and spirits. There are no menus, so passengers must inquire as to what’s available. On my flight, the wine choices were Chardonnay or Cabernet Sauvignon.
  • Pillow and blanket: AA’s partnership with mattress brand Casper carries over to these routes, and both the pillows and blanket were Casper-branded. The white pillow was a long rectangle, much like a lumbar pillow. I found it nice for tucking under the chin and cuddling into it. The gray blanket is a textured, warm fabric meant to mock a woven throw a modern, luxury hotel might lay across the foot of the bed.
  • Personal USB and universal a/c plugs
  • Priority boarding
  • Fifty percent more elite qualifying miles towards status

Some service items and services present in international Premium Economy are however completely left off the Hawaii routes. Island-bound passengers in AA Premium Economy should NOT expect an amenity kit, noise-cancelling headphones, slippers, a printed menu of the meals and beverages, or a second meal or snack service.

The one meal service is a picnic-style box (but free wine!). Image: Cynthia Drescher

Since I was upgraded from Main Cabin to Premium Economy, and it seemed many others were as well, I reached out to Sunny Rodriguez, a corporate communications officer at American Airlines, for clarification on the Premium Economy upgrade process. Rodriguez replied: “We currently do not offer upgrades into Premium Economy. Passengers using systemwides [a type of elite upgrade only available to Executive Platinum-status flyers], mileage, or e500 upgrades [upgrades available to AAdvantage members with elite status, that are applied in 500-mile increments based on flight mileage] will go from Main Cabin to First/Business and not Main Cabin to Premium Economy. We will sometimes offer a day of departure upgrade to passengers. These are offered at random and depend on how many seats are open in Premium Economy.”

Our upgrade was indeed a day-of-departure case. I am Executive Platinum with AA, and noticed that those on the upgrade list who didn’t get bumped up to First were at least moved into Premium Economy, with new boarding passes handed out at the gate. Upgrades to PE also arrived for other passengers without any status, as I spoke with a man seated nearby me who eagerly shared that this was his first flight in ten years. He obviously enjoyed the dark, quiet cabin as, after we chatted, he conked off to sleep and didn’t rouse again until it was time to put his seat back up for landing at Dallas.

Although the original airline inventor of Premium Economy is debated—RGN deputy editor John Walton even had Virgin Atlantic and EVA Airways digging through their archives in an attempt to end the debate—the mid-1990s was when the cabin class first became a “thing”. Now, more than two decades on, US-based airlines have finally come around to the idea that it’s good business and good sense to give travelers an option between economy and first classes. Although American Airlines is limiting Premium Economy on domestic routes to Hawaii, these are the routes that arguably need it the most.

My dad may have hated simply sitting for so long while flying to and from the islands, but that negativity has burned away and now all I hear from him is “when can we go back to Hawaii in those big seats?”

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Image Gallery:

Mood lighting throughout the aircraft. Image: Cynthia Drescher
The blanket and pillow are by Casper. Image: Cynthia Drescher
The center armrests lift to reveal a storage compartment and the plugs (headphones, USB, universal a/c outlet). Image: Cynthia Drescher

Two of the three rows feature pedal-style foot rests, while the bulkhead has a leather calf rest. Image: Cynthia Drescher
Looking down to the 38 inches of legroom. Image: Cynthia Drescher
Contents of the meal box (vegetarian also available). Image: Cynthia Drescher

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